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it is being sold as a 4023 E8, which should be the pump to subframe pipe for the steering on an XM ES9 V6, but the part in the photo just doesn't look right to me.
The pipe on my car is solid steel from the pump, across the front of the head, and down past the regulator with a flexible section across to the subframe and a short steel piece into the junction.

The one in the photo seems to have 2 flexible sections and no long steel section. The first 4 digits of the part number are correct, but the last 2 are a bit blurred in the photo.

I would like a new 4023E8, as mine is weeping slightly from the steel/rubber junction.

Even if this is not the correct part, it would be better to know what it is.

All the Citroen diagrams show it as the correct part, possibly a later version to reduce fracture risk. If you need one I would buy it.

Dieselman wrote:All the Citroen diagrams show it as the correct part, possibly a later version to reduce fracture risk. If you need one I would buy it.

I think that it might actually be a mis-read 4023E9, which is the subframe to steering rack feed pipe for a RHD ES9, but I cant be sure because I don't have a RHD car to look at.

Here are photos of the original on my car, I can't see how the pipe for sale could be made to fit: from the pump aclong the head (the grey pipe)

down past the regulator (the nearer hose), the red plastic was to help identify which joint was leaking
around the accumulator
to the steering pressure relief valve (the upper pipe)

When taking the pictures I noted that mine has stopped weeping now (I have driven 500km since I last wiped the LHM off), possibly due to the warmer weather.

Take yours into a hydraulic hose supplier and have them re-crimp it, or buy one off a scrap car, it can't be a common failure.

I have been looking for an ES9 car being broken, but there has not been one near here with the hose available. I will take it to a hydraulic specialist if it gets any worse and I haven't found a spare.

That bagged pipe is a sinker XM pas pipe. It sits with the rubber going upwards out the bottom of the flow divider to regulator I THINK. can double check on the sd if needs be.. but im sure someone else will beat me.

It will fit 12v derv and 8v petrol 4 pot xu engined cars..i think also prv v6 engines. esj uses a different type. Arent esj v6 and 2.5 derv engines anti sinkers with 6+2 pump and therefore different setup?

citroenxm wrote:That bagged pipe is a sinker XM pas pipe. It sits with the rubber going upwards out the bottom of the flow divider to regulator I THINK. can double check on the sd if needs be.. but im sure someone else will beat me.

It will fit 12v derv and 8v petrol 4 pot xu engined cars..i think also prv v6 engines. esj uses a different type. Arent esj v6 and 2.5 derv engines anti sinkers with 6+2 pump and therefore different setup?

You so need to get out more..............

service citroen shows it to fit MK2 XM's only

and i think you are correct as the E8 is a short metal from the pump to a union ( No. 3 ) in the drawing

SUPPLY PIPING STEERING GEAR
INJECTION ES9J4 AND RIGHT HAND DRIVE AND UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING AND 6 PISTON TYPE PUMP

INJECTION ES9J4 AND LEFT HAND DRIVE AND UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING AND 6 PISTON TYPE PUMP

here is a screen shot of the first of the above

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if you are not sure it will fit your car send me your chassis/VIN No. and i will check specifically against that

regards malcolm

Without doubt 4023E8 is the correct part for my car, I think it still has the factory label on it. The diagram on service.citroen is "not to scale", the E8 pipe has a steel section that is about a metre long, a 300mm rubber section and then another steel section of about 250mm.

The question is what is in the photographed bag? The bag is too small to have ever held an E8, but it is clearly a 4023 something, which probably makes it an XM steering pipe of some description.

I did send the vendor an email asking him to check the number on the label, but he has chosen not to reply.

There aren't many 4023 part numbers. None of the others suit the pipe in question.