XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by dcz1643 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:44 pm

maxferreira wrote:
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Lovely looking car!

glad you're getting it restored

i notice, Teesside.....i'm also in Teesside

so, there's an another XM in Teesside, how wonderful!
I haven't seen an XM in Teesside for quite a few years, is yours on the road and what area are you in? I used to see a burgundy one around and about, is that one yours? Good to hear from you...
Mines a grey 2.1 td auto, only been here since April

Currently sitting at a garage in Thornaby awaiting repairs to start on Monday

I'm in Middlesbrough, hoping to have mine on the road around this time next week, feel free to have a drive of her, she does need some work

I'm so pleased there's another local one, should meet up and get both the Teesside XMs together, I can't see there being any others
Hi again, I was wondering how you got on with getting your XM sorted. Are you now running around in it? There is a group on Facebook called “Retros of Teesside” (it is a big group, worth joining) and I notice a guy has a beautiful looking blue XM. So when mine gets done, there will be 3 XM’s I’m Teesside, that we know about. Cheers Derek
Hi

yes it's on the road and i've been driving round in it a fair bit lately

yes indeed, i'm a member of that group, and i'm meeting him on wednesday to get them both together

i do wonder if there's any more hidden away? must be
That’s great news, I don’t know when but I hope to become the third XM guy at some point. Enjoy your meet up, I am sure I will see some pictures posted on the group👍
Derek
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2011 Jaguar XF Diesel Sport
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by maxferreira » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:29 pm

dcz1643 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 5:44 pm
maxferreira wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:03 pm
dcz1643 wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:45 am
maxferreira wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 9:59 am
dcz1643 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 9:19 am


I haven't seen an XM in Teesside for quite a few years, is yours on the road and what area are you in? I used to see a burgundy one around and about, is that one yours? Good to hear from you...
Mines a grey 2.1 td auto, only been here since April

Currently sitting at a garage in Thornaby awaiting repairs to start on Monday

I'm in Middlesbrough, hoping to have mine on the road around this time next week, feel free to have a drive of her, she does need some work

I'm so pleased there's another local one, should meet up and get both the Teesside XMs together, I can't see there being any others
Hi again, I was wondering how you got on with getting your XM sorted. Are you now running around in it? There is a group on Facebook called “Retros of Teesside” (it is a big group, worth joining) and I notice a guy has a beautiful looking blue XM. So when mine gets done, there will be 3 XM’s I’m Teesside, that we know about. Cheers Derek
Hi

yes it's on the road and i've been driving round in it a fair bit lately

yes indeed, i'm a member of that group, and i'm meeting him on wednesday to get them both together

i do wonder if there's any more hidden away? must be
That’s great news, I don’t know when but I hope to become the third XM guy at some point. Enjoy your meet up, I am sure I will see some pictures posted on the group👍
it would be rather excellent to get all 3 of them together!

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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by Dieselman » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:00 am

At the CCC National Rally on 8-10th July.

Dereks car is in Wisbech, so he could just about push it there if the starter motor isn't done...
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by dcz1643 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:27 am

Dieselman wrote:
Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:00 am
At the CCC National Rally on 8-10th July.

Dereks car is in Wisbech, so he could just about push it there if the starter motor isn't done...
It might be a bit too heavy to push🤔🤪

Paul (citroenxm) is kindly supplying a replacement starter motor. So when it arrived in Wisbech, it will be fitted and then Peter will get the XM running. He can then tackle the suspension system.

I think it might be slow going, because Peter is a busy man😄
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by dcz1643 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:49 pm

Hi All, looking for a bit of advice for my mate Pete. The starter Paul kindly provided, arrived in Wisbech and is working great. Today Pete installed it but there is still an issue with the car. The car won’t turn over on the key (correct code entered), just some dash lights go off. However, it will spin if the starter is shorted. That indicates a possible problem with the starter relay. So first question, does anyone know the location of the relay, or any other suggestions regarding the possible problem? Cheers….Derek
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by citroenxm » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:06 pm

Try holding the key in the start position and move the gear lever from P to N..I've even just sort of pulled the lever towards R then bavk to P.. But bringing it to N will also allow starting, If the selector is out if adjustment it may not quite put the inhibit switch in the correct position when in P
The inhibit switch is on the back if the box.. I can't remember if the Autos have an additional start relay.. If so its obevof the relays behind the Headlights.
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by dcz1643 » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:53 pm

citroenxm wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:06 pm
Try holding the key in the start position and move the gear lever from P to N..I've even just sort of pulled the lever towards R then bavk to P.. But bringing it to N will also allow starting, If the selector is out if adjustment it may not quite put the inhibit switch in the correct position when in P
The inhibit switch is on the back if the box.. I can't remember if the Autos have an additional start relay.. If so its obevof the relays behind the Headlights.
Many Thanks for your reply, I have sent it over to Peter. You reply makes a lot of sense....Derek
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by Dieselman » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:27 am

The relay isn't a starter relay, it is the start inhibit relay. All the starter solenoid current passes through the Ign switch, as opposed to the relay making a direct battery feed.
iirc, it is the outermost relay behind the left hand headlamp.

The starter current passes through the ignition switch, then the start inhibit relay main contacts.

The relay is energised by the ignition switch sending power to the gearbox selector switch, which transfers power to the start inhibit relay coil when the selection is either Park, or Neutral, thus closing the main contacts.

The dashboard indicator should also show the selection the gearbox selector switch is making.

All the Series 1 wiring diagrams are in the, below, linked thread.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10268

As citroenxm says, the fault could be either the gearbox selector switch, or the start inhibit relay.

Shorting out the main contacts of the starter inhibit relay would allow the Ign switch to send power to the starter irrespective of the gearbox selection. Make sure the gearbox is in Park before trying this.
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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by Stickfinger » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:46 pm

Just a note:..... I had corroded wires feeding into/hidden under the relay plug/mounting bracket, only found when I dismounted the sockets/mount from the body

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Re: XM V6 Sei finally going for restoration

Post by dcz1643 » Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:50 am

Thanks for your replies guys, very useful. I will pass all of this on to Peter and let you know what happens👍
Derek
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1997 Ford Explorer V6
2011 Jaguar XF Diesel Sport
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