New "tiller" on my XM

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New "tiller" on my XM

Post by markc555 » Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:59 pm

I'm loving my '93 S1 XM S1 but being a later car fitted with the 2 spoke steering wheel I was missing Citroen's trademark single spoke wheel that I so enjoyed about my old CX.
I know it's not factory correct but thanks to a tip off from cxprestigeauto (a.k.a Rob D), I acquired an early single spoke XM wheel and I think it looks great and as you can see from the clock it took me a whole 3mins to swap them over 8-)

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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by White Exec » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:09 pm

Much better! and you get to see more of the controls.
I got rid the two-spoke 'sports' wheel on our '92 BX as well, and replaced it with the BX 'big pad' single spoke one, which was always one of the features of the car's interior.
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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by arturromarr » Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:54 pm

It looks better now .

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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by citroenxm » Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:48 pm

Really cannot fathom out why citroen went to the twin spoke as it completely went against why the single spoke was fitted from the off. It obscures all the. Dash buttons around the steering colum.
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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by White Exec » Thu Jul 08, 2021 5:23 pm

Agree, Paul. Even the addition of an airbag surely didn't need the scrapping of an iconic Citroen item. It could have been done so much better.
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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by citroenxm » Thu Jul 08, 2021 6:09 pm

Air bag technology I think as the bag units are still a size.. I guess now they could make them to prehaps fit a bx size wheel boss..
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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by Dieselman » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:31 am

The two spoke wheel came into use at the first "facelift", black exterior plastics, lighter less plush interior materials, headlining, carpets, seats, hurricane grey dash, deletion of rotary lights switch.

Afaik, that wheel is shared with the Zx and Xantia, so may be a styling refresh idea, but may also be a cost reduction one, too.

Citroen were moving into the "acceptable" corporate world of Psa...oddball styling had to be replaced with socially acceptable.
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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by citroenxm » Fri Jul 09, 2021 7:43 am

The xantia 2 spoke wheel non Air bag on xantias are different as they used the radio controls that were to be used on xm air bag steering wheels.. A larger centre boss cover however they use the same spline size so are interchangeable the xantia wheel is also a smaller diameter..
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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by Dieselman » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Mk1 Xantia steering wheels.



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Zx steering wheel.

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Neither are identical, but both have a family resemblance.
92 2.1SED M.RP5740 ECZ Sable Phenicien
92 3.0 V6-24.Rp 5713 EXY Black
92 2.1SD M.RP 5685 ENT Blue Sideral
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92 2.1SD A.RP 5698 EJV Mandarin
94 2.1SD A.RP 6218 ERT Triton Green
91 2.0SI M.RP 5187 EWT White

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Re: New "tiller" on my XM

Post by citroenxm » Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:40 pm

They aren't.. The xantia wheel diamiter is smaller.. The boss is different.. They may look vaugley simmilar as far as the two spokes go. But are quite different.

A xantia will look a bit daft with the huge xm wheel on it as there be little leg room to pass between wheel base and seat base..
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