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Post by Eddie nuff » Sat May 16, 2020 7:22 pm

The alternator isn't a new one but the original fully refurbed. The connectors are also original and the exciter should fit into the top slot. There is only one green wire hanging down from the manifold and it naturally fits to the oil switch. It's interesting that the exciter wire could be trapped under the lhm tank as the whole of that area has been out.
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Post by Dieselman » Sun May 17, 2020 9:03 am

I hadn't realised the connected lead is Gnd for the alternator, most don't have one.

For the lamp to be illuminated, the exciter wire must be making a Gnd connection somewhere, so either connected to something it shouldn't be, or the wire has been trapped.

For basic car electrical work you only need a few test tools, multi meter, test lamp.
Buy a cheap multi meter and 12v test lamp, then make a load test lamp using a spare headlamp bulb and two wires.

A low wattage test lamp is a quick and safe method of testing for power or Gnd connection

It is possible for wires/connections to meter out Ok, as the multi-meter is very low current, but a headlamp bulb will draw 5 amps, so load test the circuit. Don't use on electronic circuits.
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Re: Gold 2.0Si

Post by White Exec » Sun May 17, 2020 9:36 am

I doubt that the cable nearest the camera is a Gnd connection, as it has the plasticwork around it for a protective cover (like the main output). As Will says, unusual for an alternator to have a cabled Gnd connection, and if it did, it would need to be at least the same size as the output cable. Gnd'ing is normally via frame/mounting.
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Post by citroenxm » Sun May 17, 2020 9:48 am

We didn't say it was the ground cable.. it is the charge light cable.. but I noted it's connected to B- pole which to me is wrong.. I'd expect it to be connected to the flat blade connector at the top. So the next suggestion was the cable trapped somewhere which could sell be the next stage..
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Post by Eddie nuff » Sun May 17, 2020 3:02 pm

Dieselman wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:03 am
I hadn't realised the connected lead is an Gnd for the alternator, most don't have one.
Is that due to its age and being the original equipment?
wrote:For basic car electrical work you only need a few test tools, multi meter, test lamp.
Buy a cheap multi meter and 12v test lamp, then make a load test lamp using a spare headlamp bulb and two wires.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've got one of them multi-meter thingy's. It was cheap, I just wish I had bought one with English on the front as it's incomprehensible to me. It's written in a weird language with ohms and such on the front - very strange!

And please don't try to explain it to me folks, my eyes just glaze over. Electrics is just witchcraft :?
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Post by citroenxm » Sun May 17, 2020 3:04 pm

Damm. If we could get to you we soon have it sorted Neil .
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Post by Eddie nuff » Sun May 17, 2020 3:31 pm

It's not me who lives out in the middle of the Irish Sea - sort of :lol: ;)

On a serious note I'm surprised by how few there are in this part of the North who have any interest in Citroens, new or old.
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Post by citroenxm » Sun May 17, 2020 3:42 pm

Ha. Same over here no one on this island is keen. Lucky though I can sort stuff myself WHEN I get to doiing it.

It's more new car wars over here. Your frowned if you drive anything older then 5 years old..
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Re: Gold 2.0Si

Post by Dieselman » Sun May 17, 2020 6:41 pm

White Exec wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:36 am
I doubt that the cable nearest the camera is a Gnd connection, as it has the plasticwork around it for a protective cover (like the main output). As Will says, unusual for an alternator to have a cabled Gnd connection, and if it did, it would need to be at least the same size as the output cable. Gnd'ing is normally via frame/mounting.
If it was there originally and connected in the same fashion, it is the alternator Gnd.
I've only known of one other car with a seperate alternator Gnd, which was the similar age Vauxhall Chavalier injection.

I suspect car manufacturers were a bit itsy about electrical systems on cars fitted with electronic fuel injection being spiked by spurious alternator outputs.

Of course, diesels don't need such namby-pamby measures...like bonnet Gnd straps... :|
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