sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by sageman » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:02 pm

i do have a fairly decent amount of books i never really looked through them if im honest
i do have book 1 and 2 for both mechanics and electrics and another book for body repair/welding/car disasembily

theres some s2 books in there too but ive not looked at them

i assumed these are common and anyone who collects and/or fixes these themselves would have a set this is how it is with reliants anyway......am i wrong
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by xantia_v6 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:00 am

sageman wrote:
Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:02 pm
i do have a fairly decent amount of books i never really looked through them if im honest
i do have book 1 and 2 for both mechanics and electrics and another book for body repair/welding/car disasembily

theres some s2 books in there too but ive not looked at them

i assumed these are common and anyone who collects and/or fixes these themselves would have a set this is how it is with reliants anyway......am i wrong
The workshop manuals and wiring diagrams were only available to dealers and most have now been discarded, so they are quite rare. I think that there are one or two fairly complete sets among the members here, but the rest of us have to get by with various unofficial scanned copies that can be found on the internet. This is also true of other PSA models of the period. From about 1999, PSA makes the data available on-line, but the XM (and S1 Xantia) missed out.

Unfortunately the data available on the internet is rather patchy except for S2 wiring diagrams which can nearly all be found.
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by Dieselman » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:15 pm

The mice have chewed through the body movement sensor leads. Observing the colours and tracers should enable an easy fix.
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by sageman » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:35 pm

got the presure regulator back the other day
unfortuantly while he was taking it apart he broke the low pressure return where do i get a new one from

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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by White Exec » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:08 pm

It's only a low pressure return (back to the reservoir), so a good improvised repair will suffice.
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by sageman » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:40 pm

Due to several reasons (including a trip to amsterdam (sadly no XMs although I did see everything else bar a DS big Citroen wise)) I haven’t been able to fit the pressure regulator until today
I connected it all up enough so I could start the engine to check for leaks

Car wouldnt start turned over fine and would splutter sometimes

Tried several small things including changing the ECU just in case but nothing

So out came the plugs which were soaking with fuel and The cylinders were flooded
Cleaned and checked the plugs all working fine
Put everything back put the battery on charge had some grub and tried to start it again

It took about 30 seconds of cranking but did eventually fire into life and ran fine afterwoulds first time it’s done this not even after sitting in its barn for 10 years was there anywhere close to this trouble so what’s the cause do you think

My first thought is the ICV which is still unplugged due to its eratic behaviour reving the car up and down at idle although I think this is due to another fault and not the ICV itself as it seemed to work fine when I tested it on a battery although a bad ICV isn’t something I’ve ruled out

My main question really is what else could have caused what I suspect is flooding or is this something that can only really be found out by plugging it in

Pressure regulator seems fine now
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by Dean » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:35 pm

Leaking injectors or some sort of ignition system failure?

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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by sageman » Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:51 pm

Don’t think it was ignition related I could hear a sparking sound while cranking

Although how normal that is I don’t know and I was on my own so couldn’t pinpoint it

I do plan on having the injectors checked replaced etc although I’m getting someone to do it not something I know enough about to want to do myself
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by Dieselman » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:21 am

If you could hear the HT Spark, it was shorting to Gnd, not reaching the plugs.

Run the engine at night and look for leaking HT flashes.

I suspect it was dampness caused by condensation.
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Re: sageman's 'barn find' v6 sei s1

Post by Dieselman » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:30 am

sageman wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:35 pm
got the presure regulator back the other day
unfortuantly while he was taking it apart he broke the low pressure return where do i get a new one from

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1992 3.0 V6-24.Rp 5713 EXY Black
1992 2.1SD M.RP 5685 in ENT Blue Sideral
Previous:
1990 2.1SD M.RP 5049 in EJV Mandarin
1992 2.1SD A.RP 5698 in EJV Mandarin
1994 2.1SD A.RP 6218 in ERT Triton Green
1991 2.0SI M.RP 5187 in EWT White

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