George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

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Re: George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

Post by Dieselman » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:40 am

jorgy wrote:(the 2.1td engine becomes quite audible after 3,000rpm (about 70mph)
3000 rpm at 28 mph/1000 revs = 84mph ish, 70 should be 2500 rpm.

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Re: George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

Post by Peter.N. » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:31 am

Hi george

The difference in torque was one of the reasons I sold the BMW, I was everlastingly stalling it, for a 2500cc six cylinder it was very dissapointing, it was good once you got to about 2500 rpm but that's not what diesels are about, I suspect that those characteristics were given to it to appease the petrol heads. Compared to it the 2.1 is almost like an auto with very little need to change gear, mine will pull from tickover quite smoothly and you don't wear the clutch out pulling away.

The 406 Hdi I have has pretty good low down torque but doesn't deliver it as smoothly as the XM. I think that 2.1 engine is the best IDI ever made.

70 mph comes up at about 2400 rpm on mine and I can't hear the engine at that speed and that's as fast as I drive :D

Peter
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Re: George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

Post by jorgy » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:46 pm

Dieselman wrote:
jorgy wrote:(the 2.1td engine becomes quite audible after 3,000rpm (about 70mph)
3000 rpm at 28 mph/1000 revs = 84mph ish, 70 should be 2500 rpm.
What?! Am I going so fast. My tachometer often tackles 2,800+, where the engine steps up the volume.

70 at 2,400 Peter?! That's for sure not like mine, I wish it was -imagine that one thing I've been thinking of the 2.1td XM is what a complete car it'd be with a 6-speed with a looong 6th, just for cruising comfort to suit the rest of the car's level. Still, I have the right tyres for the year, 195 65 15.

I'll take notes on my next drive. This said, if I'm going faster than I thought, I can only say I'm in cloud 9 with the consumption I'm doing!

Peter, I should be getting an HDi Xantia after Christmas so it'll be interesting to compare with the 2.1td in day to day life with both.

G
'94 XM 3.0 12v LHD Manual, DIRAVI, Black - @138k, now 175k - RP6336 - SORN
'93 XM 2.1TD SED Manual, Pearl Emerald Green - @80k, now 115k - RP6077
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Re: George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

Post by Peter.N. » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:12 pm

"Peter, I should be getting an HDi Xantia after Christmas so it'll be interesting to compare with the 2.1td in day to day life with both."

You won't be dissapointed - except perhaps with the seats and space.

All my XMs have shown around 2400 rpm at 70 mph, but as dieselman says if everything is accurate should be 2500.

Peter
'96 'N' 2.1 td VSX manual estate White RP6695. Sadly gone
2008 C5 2.0. Hdi Estate, Red
2008 C5 2.0. Hdi Estate Silver


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Re: George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

Post by Dieselman » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:46 pm

jorgy wrote: This said, if I'm going faster than I thought, I can only say I'm in cloud 9 with the consumption I'm doing!
Jorgy.
have you noticed you've been getting to work earlier than normal..
92 2.1SED M.RP5740 ECZ Sable Phenicien
92 3.0 V6-24.Rp 5713 EXY Black
92 2.1SD M.RP 5685 ENT Blue Sideral
Prev
90 2.1SD M.RP 5049 EJV Mandarin
92 2.1SD A.RP 5698 EJV Mandarin
94 2.1SD A.RP 6218 ERT Triton Green
91 2.0SI M.RP 5187 EWT White

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Re: George's "Poole" 1993 2.1td SED manual

Post by jorgy » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:00 am

:lol: :lol:

Yes, I'm usually there with the cleaners everytime!

I don't like traffic jams... :mrgreen:

G
'94 XM 3.0 12v LHD Manual, DIRAVI, Black - @138k, now 175k - RP6336 - SORN
'93 XM 2.1TD SED Manual, Pearl Emerald Green - @80k, now 115k - RP6077
SOLD '99 2.0 Xantia HDi Exclusive, Silver -118k to 130k
'00 XM 3.0 24v Exclusive, Silver - @117k

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