M842 BGJ

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Re: M842 BGJ

Post by Rob » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:28 am

Ah right... So, can anyone confirm the door quarter lights are bonded in?
Seems silly to have to change a door if someone smashes a window, though...

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Re: M842 BGJ

Post by xmexclusive » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:15 am

Much of the glass on the XM is bonded as it forms part of the structural strength of the car body.
Yes that quarterlight is bonded on 3 sides (5 if you count the short bits, workshop manual pages below.
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Re: M842 BGJ

Post by MTXM » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:14 pm

That is great information as always John - you really are a fountain of knowledge!! With regards, Matthew T.
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Post by Dieselman » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:45 pm

Rob wrote:Ah right... So, can anyone confirm the door quarter lights are bonded in?
Seems silly to have to change a door if someone smashes a window, though...
Why would you have to change the door if the window gets smashed?
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Re: M842 BGJ

Post by Rob » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:59 pm

Dunno, maybe there was more damage then just the glass... it's definitely got S1 glass almost the whole way around.

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Re: M842 BGJ

Post by Rob » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:32 pm

It's a sad day... This XM might have taken it's last trip today. Yup, the strut went off. I wasn't there so don't know the extent of the damage.
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Post by sdelasal » Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:53 pm

Rob - Ouch! however, i have a mandarin bonnet that you are welcome to.

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Post by White Exec » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:19 pm

Really do hope you are able to repair this; a rebuilt strut top is no problem (Elastomer). Probably sensible to do the pair.
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Post by Dieselman » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:17 pm

The damage will be limited to the strut top and the bonnet.

I only know of one other strut top failure on a UK car inthe last eight years. It will be interesting to see the reason for failure.
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Post by xmexclusive » Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:08 pm

The 10mm feed pipe will have been ripped out of its lower mountings and the bottom metal pipe section distorted.
The bonnet hinges will need to be bent back into shape, not easy to get right, lots of iterations in my case.
None of it was that difficult to pull back into usable shape, bonnet included.
Took me the next morning to get roadworthy when one of mine went.
Bonnet got replaced a few months later when one the right colour became available.

A good few years ago when I was researching strut head failures I quite easily collected well over a dozen failed examples (all UK).
Knowing how they fail and what signs to inspect for before failure did not save me from an axial tearing failure.
Original strut heads will now have hardened rubber 20 years or so old.
I consider the use of elastomer in rebuilds to be a far more servicable material than rubber.
I particularly value the fact that "Bonnet Popping" protection rings are welded in as part of the elastomer rebuild.

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