My V6 24v Manual XM

[citroenxm]

Hi all.

Some thoughts im throwing around. What would my XM 24v be worth with a FULL Mot and 6 months TAX? Theres 120k (Or so on it) and extensive welding to the rear subframe mounts as we have all seen. All pipe work is good, so Id not expect a leak soon. Im not sure what to do, I cant REALLY afford to enjoy her on Petrol, so I thought, do I sell her on for someone else to enjoy... OR do I fit a multi point sequential LPG Kit, Despite the tightening rules for Kits.. I dont need a full kit, Ive got a couple of tanks etc. Would an addition of such increase her value too??

I dont like the thought of her sitting up there wasting away!

Thoughts/comments?

<Off to look for a 6 cylinder LPG kit>

[Charles M]

Paul - can't really help on the valuation front, but my experience of the classic car market is that an LPG conversion may reduce the value rather than add to it - unless the car is being run daily (which would be unlikely), the petrol consumption is not an issue, whereas compromising the originality (and interior) with the tanks etc doesn't help sell it.

Whichever way you go, I hope to see this in use at some point!

[Eddie nuff]

As a daily runner, whereby the cost of running it is more important, then the adding of LPG can only be beneficial to you.

As a car used mainly as a show car and the weekend jaunt then it has to be as original as possible surely, in order to protect its value.

[ragger]

I have been very surprised at how depressed prices seem to have been over the last 6-10 months. Matthew has had difficulty parting with his XMs and there was a very nice very low miles 16 valve offered for sale recently that didn't seem to get any bids at £1100. Savoy has had a V6 for sale at (I think) £2750 for ages and when that went on Ebay it didn't get very far either. I suppose that is good news for buyers who don't have one already but not so good news for those of us who own them!

As you know I love my SED, but I do miss my 12v V6 that I let go a couple of years ago and because I don't need to do huge local mileages in my XM, generally saving it for longer journeys, I am tempted to have another go at a big boy. On the other hand, I know my car and what has been done to it over the years so to make a change would have to be a gamble - and it would still have to sell. I am not sure how I would feel about the prospect of buying a car that had been converted to run on gas. I know chris briefly ran a turbo on gas and found it fine, but it is another level of complication. I think for it to be worthwhile doing it would need to become a regularly used car - and where would the tank go if not in the boot?

An interesting conundrum.

[citroenxm]

WOW, Has NO ONE nothing to say?? How exciting!

Charles, the unfortunate thing is I do NOT have the pleasure of a garage. Id also expect an LPG kit to make something a bit more desireable as its more affordable to use more frequently.. With an injection kit, Id use the car more, yet petrol is not easy.

Bear in mind. Just to get the car from the Farm to my house and back to the farm ONLY is an 80 mile round trip! YES 80 miles! Thats before any run outs etc!

I think then with ALL thr massive input id be looking at getting an injection kit, because deep down I KNOW id regret getting rid. I just dont like seeing her now sitting there!

As for originalility.

I have a spare rear bumper, to replce the Hole cut out for the LPG filler.
I have got a spare inlet manifold, so I can replace that if needed

So, if I ever wanted to sell on, Id find a way to return to originality.

So, have I answered my OWN question?

I have been very surprised at how depressed prices seem to have been over the last 6-10 months. Matthew has had difficulty parting with his XMs and there was a very nice very low miles 16 valve offered for sale recently that didn't seem to get any bids at £1100. Savoy has had a V6 for sale at (I think) £2750 for ages and when that went on Ebay it didn't get very far either. I suppose that is good news for buyers who don't have one already but not so good news for those of us who own them!

As you know I love my SED, but I do miss my 12v V6 that I let go a couple of years ago and because I don't need to do huge local mileages in my XM, generally saving it for longer journeys, I am tempted to have another go at a big boy. On the other hand, I know my car and what has been done to it over the years so to make a change would have to be a gamble - and it would still have to sell. I am not sure how I would feel about the prospect of buying a car that had been converted to run on gas. I know chris briefly ran a turbo on gas and found it fine, but it is another level of complication. I think for it to be worthwhile doing it would need to become a regularly used car - and where would the tank go if not in the boot?

An interesting conundrum.

I have also got a V6 12v SEi auto on LPG, and I did 40k in that on gas and LOVED EVERY moment! Unfortunally, the car is more of a big resto project now, where the 24v is virtually road ready.

[captainhaddock]

Tempting, I've heard these 24 v. are a dream to drive. I'd keep it cause fitting such a LPG kit is very complicated and if it back fires...or so I've read somewhere It wouldn't be worth anything in Ireland so at least I've answered a question as useless as imaginable, I don't think adding that LPG tank will add to it's UK value.

[russ92xmsed]

I think Rob has a very good point actually. XM prices and interest in the car seems low at the moment. look at Matthew and his cars. All extremely high quality and only just managed to sell the mandarin at I think a too low a price.
The economy is apparently recovering, so in time people out there might want to then start owning larger cars for fun.
I think you should keep it for now Paul, show it off at some rally's and get others interested in it first. Then you never know, if you get an offer you can't refuse..... Then don't refuse it!

[citroenxm]

With nothing against mathew and his cars are show pieces but I really do NOT think a tct engine is better then a v6 24v engine.. theres no more contest.

captain.. spit back was confined to single point lpg setups. With sequential injection the fuel is injected just like a petrol injector directly over the cylinder. These rarely if ever spit back..

Hhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm.....

[russ92xmsed]

Granted, the TCT is less desirable than the 24V V6, there really is no contest, but the TCT would appeal more to an everyday user maybe. Any research into mpg figures would tell you the TCT is cheaper to run.... A bit anyway!
Only people who know XM's and the fact the 24V is ' the ultimate one to have' will know they are the ones to have and therefore can command a bigger price.

Personally I would get it on the road, without the LPG, show it off a bit at some rallies, get some interest, and if someone wants to buy it and have the LPG, then you could fit it for them.

All food for thought. at least it gives you time to get used to the idea of possibly selling it.......

[citroenxm]

Hmmm at 80 miles round trip JUST to get it to and from my home to farm thats expensive. I am going to look at lpg injection kits. I have no quarms or issues fitting on.. even have a spare inlet manifold for the injector drillings.