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Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:47 pm
by Woodie
Hi folks some help and advice needed.

My window regulator cable has let go Matthew came over tonight with a replacement or so we thought but it is totally different, (see picture, Matthews replacement is on the left) from the plug onto the motor and some kind of regulator attached to it, the slider also is different... Matthew being expert in the series ones had thought the regulator he brought with him was a series two, but has not seen one like mine before. Now mine is a late model car 1998 so i do wonder if its the same as a xantia regulator, maybe someone can help shine some light on the mystery or even has a replacement...
Thanks in advance Richard

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:00 pm
by White Exec
The one on the right is Driver's door, with one-touch and anti-pinch control module.
One on the left is for other doors, without these facilities.

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:04 pm
by citroenxm
No they are not the same. DO NOT FIT a xantia one.. Although the regulator frame won't fit in the door either.

Citroen changed the drivers one twice in mk 2 cars. The one touch changed twice so you need to be carefull the year model you get the replacement from. However with a bit of enginuety you could even get rid of the mk 2 harness in the door and fit a mk 1 harness and stronger mk. 1.winder unit. But yuo need to know a bit of electronics and understand wiring diagrams..

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:23 pm
by Woodie
citroenxm wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:04 pm
No they are not the same. DO NOT FIT a xantia one.. Although the regulator frame won't fit in the door either.

Citroen changed the drivers one twice in mk 2 cars. The one touch changed twice so you need to be carefull the year model you get the replacement from. However with a bit of enginuety you could even get rid of the mk 2 harness in the door and fit a mk 1 harness and stronger mk. 1.winder unit. But yuo need to know a bit of electronics and understand wiring diagrams..
Thanks i will try and repair the broken wire, but the wiring harness replacement might be of interest in the future if i cant do it myself, i know a man who can... Do you have a diagram ?

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:24 pm
by Woodie
White Exec wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:00 pm
The one on the right is Driver's door, with one-touch and anti-pinch control module.
One on the left is for other doors, without these facilities.
Thanks that clears up the strange connector

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:08 pm
by citroenxm
Haynes has the diagram in the manual..

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:03 am
by Woodie
Finally repaired the winder mech, using cycle gear cable cut to the right length and welding and crimping two stainless ferrules it now works yahooo... went together easy....... Not.... But we now know how it goes at least
Cheers for all the imput guys

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:07 am
by Dieselman
A good and cheap fix, there. Cycle gear cable will be stainless steel, so unlikely to be a problem again.

if affixing the ferrules is difficult, simply knotting the cable works just as well.

Re: Window regulators, Help needed

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:43 pm
by Woodie
Dieselman wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:07 am
A good and cheap fix, there. Cycle gear cable will be stainless steel, so unlikely to be a problem again.

if affixing the ferrules is difficult, simply knotting the cable works just as well.
I think someone had knotted the cable before and that is what had pulled apart by the look of things... Luckily i work in engineering so can get bit made and improvised :D