The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Probably.

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F0zzieBear007
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The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Probably.

Post by F0zzieBear007 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:37 am

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It's difficult to know where to start with this... perhaps the only documented footage of one of the cars in question would be a good place, I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5gj_FWEdE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unfortunately, that car went to the scrapheap in the sky over 2 years ago. The hydraulic system however, was removed in its entirety... sort of.
There may be a couple of components missing (one of which is the ECU, doh!) and some are in less serviceable condition than others (this xm was scrapped due to the offside strut top mount thingy corroding which would have cost more than the value of the car to fix). I only had a limited amount of time to remove what parts I thought I needed too.
I will leave the full plans of the project I am undertaking for a later date, I'd rather leave you all curious than scare you all off on my first post!
The first question of many however, is as follows:
Has anybody got a diagram of the XM Mk1 hydraulic system? I've found such things for the later hydractive xm and xantia, the full BX's system, even the CX and DS, but nothing on the early XM. The Haynes manual is pretty useless as its a generation of car that as soon as you try to delve anywhere beyond simple maintenance it just reads TAKE ME TO A SPECIALIST... I just think a diagram of what's there and where it all connects would be great as then I could figure out what's missing!
Any help would be fantastic!
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Re: The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Proba

Post by White Exec » Thu Jul 23, 2015 5:45 am

So what are you attempting to do with all these removed components?
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Re: The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Proba

Post by xmexclusive » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:26 am

There was more than one variation of the Hydractive system fitted to the Mk1 XM between 1989 and 1993.
As examples there were 4 ECU variations, some not interchangable, two types of electrovalve, not interchangable.
The later Mk1 hydractive XM's got the Hydractive 11 system as fitted to the Mk2 XM's.
I have the Citroen workshop Manual covering early XM's but would need ORGA and VIN of the scrapped car to identify the correct version.

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Re: The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Proba

Post by F0zzieBear007 » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:59 am

Thanks John. I had a feeling the XM would be one of those cars that steadily evolved over time without much notice!
Well, it was a K plate, so I think that gives us 1992... I will speak to the previous owner and see if he has any documents still remaining, he might just have all its numbers written down somewhere for safe keeping.
If not, it looks like I'll be searching for some interesting and potentially none standard solutions...
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Re: The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Proba

Post by Dieselman » Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:13 pm

A 1992 car will be Hydractive 1.
92 2.1SED M.RP5740 ECZ Sable Phenicien
92 3.0 V6-24.Rp 5713 EXY Black
92 2.1SD M.RP 5685 ENT Blue Sideral
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90 2.1SD M.RP 5049 EJV Mandarin
92 2.1SD A.RP 5698 EJV Mandarin
94 2.1SD A.RP 6218 ERT Triton Green
91 2.0SI M.RP 5187 EWT White

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Re: The most unusual project involving XM Hydraulics...Proba

Post by citsncycles » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:38 pm

If it's any help I believe my '92 car is running the 2nd version of Hydractive 1 (there were 3 I think)
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