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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by White Exec » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:58 am

Mike and I have done a good few replies to Rex on FCF, after his first posts and search for a car.
Have replied today on the items above (warning lights, dash, displays) there.
To save duplication, I'll stick to here, not least because queries are pure XM, and an obvious need for all the usual solutions*.

*Except the cracked dash, that is, which is evidence of out-and-out hamfistedness. :o :o
Citroen hide their screws well!
Chris
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2003 RAV4 D4D 2.0 5dr LHD Silver WORKHORSE
1989 BX19RD Delage Red Deceased; 1998 ZX 1.9D Avantage auto Triton Green Company car 1998-2001; 2001 Xantia 1.8i auto Wicked Red Company car 2001-2003

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by xmexclusive » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:26 am

I can find a spare unbroken Mk 2 dash panel if required.

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by Saraphi » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:32 am

Oh - It certainly is!!!!!
I'll PM you right now.................

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by xmexclusive » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:14 am

PM received and replied to.

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by djg » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:57 pm

Chris,
White Exec wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:38 am
Removal of the complete fascia is necessary to remove the LH and RH displays.
Now, I wouldn't say that. :-) OK, first time around, maybe it's safer that way but really not needed.
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Gábor

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by djg » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:08 pm

Saraphi,

the don't all light up in the middle on startup, so this is not a problem in itself. And if you have some that won't light up, that's easy to rectify, these are separate, old style light bulbs in sockets. You just remove the center unit when you have everything else disassembled, and replace all bulbs with new ones, no matter whether they work now or not.
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1996 XM 2.5 Turbo D VSX (LHD, Bleu Mauritius)
1986 BX 19 TRI Break (LHD, Rouge Vallelunga) deceased
1996 AX 14 D (LHD, Alaska White) in family

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by White Exec » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:22 pm

djg wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:57 pm
Chris,
White Exec wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:38 am
Removal of the complete fascia is necessary to remove the LH and RH displays.
Now, I wouldn't say that. :-) OK, first time around, maybe it's safer that way but really not needed.
The fascia (front panel containing the long row of switches and AC controls) has to come out (or at least brought out) to access and remove the LH and RH displays.
Chris
1996 XM 2.5TD Exclusive RP7165 Polar White
2003 RAV4 D4D 2.0 5dr LHD Silver WORKHORSE
1989 BX19RD Delage Red Deceased; 1998 ZX 1.9D Avantage auto Triton Green Company car 1998-2001; 2001 Xantia 1.8i auto Wicked Red Company car 2001-2003

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by White Exec » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:30 pm

djg wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:08 pm
Saraphi,

the don't all light up in the middle on startup, so this is not a problem in itself. And if you have some that won't light up, that's easy to rectify, these are separate, old style light bulbs in sockets. You just remove the center unit when you have everything else disassembled, and replace all bulbs with new ones, no matter whether they work now or not.
I did reproduce full details of dash warning lights (from Owner's Handbook), and a list of those which would show up with IGN on, on FCF.
Am trying now not to split answers across the two forums, because it just gets confusing. Much easier here, with all the expertise available. ;)
Chris
1996 XM 2.5TD Exclusive RP7165 Polar White
2003 RAV4 D4D 2.0 5dr LHD Silver WORKHORSE
1989 BX19RD Delage Red Deceased; 1998 ZX 1.9D Avantage auto Triton Green Company car 1998-2001; 2001 Xantia 1.8i auto Wicked Red Company car 2001-2003

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by djg » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:44 pm

Chris, I don't know if it's any different on RHD, but wait, you also drive LHD. This is how I always do it, and with all the LED replacements, I did remove it more than I care to admit. :-)

- fish out the blind or warning LED cover at the end of the switch row
- remove the screw behind
- remove the small panel between the air vents
- pull the steering wheel towards you
- remove the covers and the screws behind
- ease off the centre panel, clip on the left end
- remove the air vent/instrument panel shroud screws, including the one just revealed under the centre fascia
- remove the instrument panel shroud

That's all. I can remove any of the units then: LH, RH clock/trip just snap into place. You have to know how to unsnap them, sure, that's why I said it had to be easier to do it with full removal the first time around, but it can be done. You can even remove the centre warning light unit if you know where the screws are, but this is a bit more tricky.

Actually, I have pictures, too, at: http://citroen.tramontana.co.hu/en/elec ... hd-display
Bye,
Gábor

1996 XM 2.5 Turbo D VSX (LHD, Bleu Mauritius)
1986 BX 19 TRI Break (LHD, Rouge Vallelunga) deceased
1996 AX 14 D (LHD, Alaska White) in family

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Re: I've been lurking, Time to say Hello

Post by White Exec » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:25 am

Hi Gabor,
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Dash fascia 8212.AC.JPG
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Items 5 and 9 (and the vent control cover 10) are what I usually remove to get access to the displays etc.
I think it's the same as your procedure.
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Chris
1996 XM 2.5TD Exclusive RP7165 Polar White
2003 RAV4 D4D 2.0 5dr LHD Silver WORKHORSE
1989 BX19RD Delage Red Deceased; 1998 ZX 1.9D Avantage auto Triton Green Company car 1998-2001; 2001 Xantia 1.8i auto Wicked Red Company car 2001-2003

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