You have got me wrong... I don't dislike the XM, if I didn't like it, the car would be long gone. Sure I might hate working on the heap of sh!t, but where's my alternative. The XM's biggest problem is the cars that preceded it. My diet of cars for the last 20years (ie: since I was 16years old) is: CX2400, CX2200, GS1220, CX GTi Turbo, CX safari, DSpecial, ID19... with rare drives in cars like DS19's, DS23's, SM's and tractions and 2cvs. You get out of these sorts of cars expecting something really special from Citroen. To find what is a good car .... but certainly not amazing like the old pre PSA era cars.Jan-hendrik wrote:Nice to see Shane blowing off steam again. He hasn't changed his opinion one bit yet, and who would blame him for that or myself or Ciarán for being subjective, biased even in our evaluations. Shane can have his fun () and so can I for loving the car with its ultimate comfort, the 194 HP V6 with the AT which is definitely not a slug-o-matic and who wants the XM to have the extra tiny bit of power in today's traffic? If I needed it I'd buy a Porsche or a Ferrari, or even a Prius, which I actually did some time ago, and is very fast at the lights!
The CX GTi something is not the only vehicle from days long past that performed better (again subjective) than many vehicles on the road today. I've owned CXs and know a little bit about them. They were OK, but you have to move on. I am with Ciarán all the way. I like the XM, the one I have, that is. I don't mind it is not very frugal with fuel in urban traffic. It performs very well on long hauls. My family likes it, everyone who rides in it likes it. And at just 10 years of age and less than 55k km it will stay my, our, pleasure, our comfort on wheels for many more years to come. Thank you
Like it's been said above, if I hate working on the XM, can you imagine how I'll get along with a C5 that doesn't even have proper hydraulics
I better keep my fingers crossed that the XM keeps running for a long, long time 
You see, it would be a very, very brave person that suggests to SWMBO that she should drive the "sh!tty old cars" I like 
Maybe C6's will become worthless overnight and we can try one of them .... I fear the cost of spare parts though, not to mention wierd electrical issues that no-one can figure out.
seeya,
Shane L.
I went up to Yorkshire and drove one at Savoy Motors not many years ago, it drove nicely but was rather well ventilated around floor level in fact you could see the road through the n/s rear sill, to big a job for me.