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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by citronut » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:21 pm

Duke wrote:For info, last year I changed a couple of rubber fuel pipes on my Prestige which had also perished through age.

I believe it's the same engine (2.0 Injection Non Turbo Petrol).

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i hope that cloth bound fuel line is not what you fitted, as it is a fire hazard,

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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by Duke » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:34 pm

citronut wrote:i hope that cloth bound fuel line is not what you fitted, as it is a fire hazard,
Indeed that's what it's got on it ATM Malcolm - interesting as it was marked up as fuel hose and I've posted that picture before and not had anyone mention it!

I've had a look online and such hoses are availible called "Nylon Braided Nitrile" which looks similar...

The Prestige is not stored at home at the moment so can't check to see if it is nylon or fabric and was too long ago to remember...

Out of interest why is it a fire hazard?
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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by citronut » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:40 pm

apparently a few years ago VW LT's were going up in flames when they were around a couple of years old,
turned out to be down to this type of fuel line,

i just wont use or recommend the use of any bound fuel line these days

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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by Duke » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:46 pm

Interesting Malcolm, can't say I've ever heard of that before...

I've just had a look on Google and according to them it helps "resist heat, oil and weathering" and "mainly used for the classic look on carburettor engines"...

I'll keep an eye on it, but either way it's better than the old perished rubber pipe it had before. Now that was a fire risk...! ;)

When it's back I might swap for conventional pipe to be on the safe side...
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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by citronut » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:49 pm

i think the main problem with it is it perishes under the outer binding,
i know a few garages that wont use it

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Post by captainhaddock » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:30 pm

An interesting issue. I've used those cloth type fuel hoses as well in the past without any problem. Also I've seen original fuel hoses still looking fine but dating back as far as 1986's that I changed for new rubber ones.....which started cracking badly within a few years (Gates was the brand I used)
I just point it out, because you think you're making things safer and by accident find out that new hoses perish a lot faster. It is one of the reasons I always keep a keen eye on fuel hoses.

Where is this car leaking, it should be visible even after trying to start her. Is it under the bonnet or at the rear end of the car?

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Post by endorfin » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:55 pm

The leak is coming from under the engine somewhere, I didn't have a chance to check deeper but will do tomorrow.

I'm assuming if I put a hose in s small jerry can of fuel and attempt to start it the engine will pull the fuel through? Like with a diesel, the injection pump pulls the fuel through.

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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by captainhaddock » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:00 pm

The pump in this car is in the fuel tank. So I am not sure what your plan is here. From under the engine...so not from the conncection as mentioned around the bulkhead..

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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by endorfin » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:37 pm

Right so if the pump is in the fuel tank then I'll have to drain the tank of stale petrol (I was going to do that anyway) and put fresh fuel in and try starting it.

That's after fixing the leak first of course.

I've also got a set of new spark plugs in case they've gone.

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Re: just registerd play gentle :shock: ;)

Post by captainhaddock » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:16 pm

Most important is to find where the leak is and fix that...I have no idea yet where that could be. Never heard of perished metal pipes before (yet)

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